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Misstatements about City Assessor's Office

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Misstatements about City Assessor's Office Reply with quote

I can see why HCRG is disclaiming any responsibility for Ms. Hatch's campaign literature. It is full of misstatements, especially about the City Assessor's Office:

1. Reid Terry is NOT an employee of the City of Hartford.
2. The City of Hartford does NOT have a contract with Reid Terry.
3. Mr. Terry does NOT enter people's homes for assessments or walk thru's at any time.
4. Mr. Terry's duties are purely administrative and supervisory.
5. Mr. Terry is a regional supervisor for Tyler Technologies, a nation-wide assessment firm. He covers a multi-state area for this firm.
6. Tyler Technologies assigns Mr. Terry, as well as other staff, to Hartford. He is NOT assigned or chosen by the City of Hartford.
7. Wisconsin law requires Tyler Technologies to name one of its staff as the official "assessor" for signing documents. Tyler Technologies assigned this duty to Mr. Terry. The City of Hartford did not.
6. All visits to people's homes are conducted by other Tyler staff.
7. It is UNLAWFUL for the City of Hartford or any other person to harass or interfere with the employment or employer of Mr. Terry.
7. Contact the Federal Equal Employment Opportunities Commission or the Wisconsin Dept. of Justice if you have any questions.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Fastcheck -

You have access to some great information that others don't. Please supply links for documentation of these facts so we can all see.

But it doesn't change the fact that his office is not far from where our kids go in and out of the library. And the position and the powers granted by the common council allow him to go through our homes.

Too close for comfort. He won't be coming into my home. And if I let my kids go to the library again, it won't be without an adult escort.

What a great way to have to live, hey?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Admin:

Can you please provide me with the Common counsel minutes where it specifically states that this individual will be doing the walk-through assessments? I reviewed the details that Ms. Hatch supplied on her web site and on the paper that was put in my mail box, and I am hard pressed to find where it specifically stated that this ONE individual (out of ??? employed by the company) will be THE ONE to do the walk through assessments.

Quite honestly, I think it's a stretch to say that, and even the documents I read don't say that; I've talked with my alderperson about this subject as well.

Also, you all might want to check the laws relating to the manner in which information obtained from the registry can be used and the manner and ways it cannot be used. The use of the information and what I have interpreted as a threat to the company that employes the registrant in regards to conducting business borders on illegal use of the information.

When will this stop? "For the Good and Welfare of Hartford" (a topic ), is this type of "campaigning" for the good and welfare of Hartford? I think not.

~JK~
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can start with the link to the story in the paper (Nov 18, 2006 Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel):

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=532493

Will this be linked at the HCRG site along with the other articles?

In the article it states that the city put in the contract with Terry's firm language that barred Terry from entering homes to perform walk through inspections. This was done when the city police chief informed the city of Terry's past

I understand about going to the library but if he is in the office wouldn't it be sometime between 8am and 5pm? I don't know about your kids, most would be in school at that time. And if you are worried abou them going there by themselves, wouldn't they are too young to go to the library bythemselves, wouldn't they need an adult to get them there anyway?

And if you did let them go by themselves - it doesn't matter that they would have to walk past other resident ******** offenders in Hartford (http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/) (sorry I couldn't get the link to work to show exactly who in hartford is registered - just enter the zip code and the map will appear) just the one who works for a company that is hired by the city and is forbidden by contract from entering any homes?

I understand your point but I think you are stretching it a bit far. I believe that by law you can't prohibit him from entering your home if he wasn't forbidden by the contract to perform the inspection without incurring some sort of criminal penalty on yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing -

How is this the responsiblity of just Jacki Lokken? How long has she been an alderperson? Terry has been there 13 years and was convicted I think in 2000.

And what can Hatch do about it - The city has a contract with the company who employees Terry - is she going to have the city not follow the contract and go with someone else? And then have the city sued by the company for failing to follow the contract - another example of how HCRG will waste our tax money
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Hartford_Resident"]We can start with the link to the story in the paper (Nov 18, 2006 Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel):

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=532493

Will this be linked at the HCRG site along with the other articles?

In the article it states that the city put in the contract with Terry's firm language that barred Terry from entering homes to perform walk through inspections. This was done when the city police chief informed the city of Terry's past

I understand about going to the library but if he is in the office wouldn't it be sometime between 8am and 5pm? I don't know about your kids, most would be in school at that time. And if you are worried abou them going there by themselves, wouldn't they are too young to go to the library bythemselves, wouldn't they need an adult to get them there anyway?

And if you did let them go by themselves - it doesn't matter that they would have to walk past other resident ******** offenders in Hartford (http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/) (sorry I couldn't get the link to work to show exactly who in hartford is registered - just enter the zip code and the map will appear) just the one who works for a company that is hired by the city and is forbidden by contract from entering any homes?

I understand your point but I think you are stretching it a bit far. I believe that by law you can't prohibit him from entering your home if he wasn't forbidden by the contract to perform the inspection without incurring some sort of criminal penalty on yourself.[/quote]

Dear Hartford Resident (and anyone else that seems to care)

Thank you for pointing out the article in the Journal Sentinel; I missed that one. I agree with the mayor's statements that this flier and this "campaign" is sleazy; you would think that it was a presidential campaign -- isn't that how the "big boys" play? I thought that Jan Hatch and the group she has claimed association with (the HCRG) was against the "big boys"...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per a topic on Ms. Hatch’s website she states that she [b][u]never[/u][/b] said that Mr. Terry was an employee of the city…I have copied the exact paragraph from her site :

“I never said Mr. Terry was an employee of the city. I said Hartford taxpayer money is going into his pocket. Hartford pays for the contracted services. The fact that the money goes first to Cole Layer Trumble or Tyler Technologies is beside the point. It is Ms. Lokken’s attempt to distance herself with a smoke screen from the fact that the Council voted unanimously to renew the contract that puts him in the City Hall office.”
Jan Hatch. (2006). Lokken Defends City Assessor.html Paragraph 8
Retrieved November 27, 2006
From http://www.janhatch.com/html/lokken_defends_city_assessor.html


Yet, upon further inspection of her site and since I recalled reading this verbiage prior to reading the above, Ms. Hatch states unequivocally that Mr. Terry [b][i]is[/i] [/b]employed by the city of Hartford as a property assessor (see below text copied directly from the source):

“The fact that there are 27 ******** offenders living in the Hartford area is disturbing enough in itself. [color=red]What causes even deeper concern is that one of them is employed by the city of Hartford as a property assessor[/color] (color emphasis supplied), with the possibility that he might be conducting walk through examinations of properties for the purposes of estimating fair market value in anticipation of the property taxing process.”
Jan Hatch (2006). Reid Terry.html Paragraph 4
Retrieved November 27, 2006
From http://www.janhatch.com/html/reid_terry.html


So, I respectfully ask, Ms. Hatch which of the two statements/sentiments is a true recollection of the facts and which is not?

Thanks.
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